|
Post by Phelan on Mar 1, 2005 23:17:28 GMT -5
Ahh but Gaien who said an Omnipotent God was logical? I mean it is logical to think that if this Omnipotent God existed and if he created everything, that means he created logic too, so that being said, he should be able to operate outside that context because he did before logic was made. You are trying to comprehend the city 50 miles away when you are an ant on a leaf in the middle of the river.
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 1, 2005 23:39:35 GMT -5
Ahh, but dear Phelan, I am not the ant on the leaf, Wilkens is. ;D I never said that God, however you assume it to be, was logical. I stated that in order for him to be the 'all powerful' omnipotent being, he would have to operate outside logic itself. Then, I tried to define omnipotency using logical statments, which clearly showed that if God (however you assume him/her/it to be) operated in a logical sense, it wouldn't be logical and could not be omnipotent.
Next question?
|
|
|
Post by Phelan on Mar 1, 2005 23:45:42 GMT -5
a minor typo, I meant we are the ants on the leaf. how can you describe something that operates outside the bounds of logic with logic? The statement assumes that he/she/it is omnipotent off the start, so to try to disprove that negates the question itself.
|
|
|
Post by Wilkens on Mar 1, 2005 23:49:51 GMT -5
what is the air speed velocity of a laden swallow?
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 1, 2005 23:51:10 GMT -5
*Sighs*
Phelan, you cannot answer Wilkens statement, it is impossible, it is a paradox, it cannot be done. I simply tried to explain that to the best of my limited capabilities.
That question alone has entire books written with logical and reverse logic and metaphysical theories trying to prove it one way or the other only to in fact prove that the afore mentioned statement, cannot be proved.
Next Question?
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 1, 2005 23:54:25 GMT -5
what is the air speed velocity of a laden swallow? African or European?
|
|
|
Post by Wilkens on Mar 1, 2005 23:56:55 GMT -5
african
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 1, 2005 23:59:57 GMT -5
16 m/s for an african swallow, assuming it isn't carring a coconut...
Next question?
|
|
|
Post by Phelan on Mar 2, 2005 0:01:24 GMT -5
I will stay out of your thread since you keep getting frustrated with me.
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 2, 2005 0:02:49 GMT -5
I will stay out of your post since you keep getting frustrated with me. Bah, not frustrated with you ;D frustrated that I cannot properly articulate what it is I am trying to get others to comprehend.
|
|
|
Post by Wilkens on Mar 2, 2005 0:06:31 GMT -5
16 m/s for an african swallow, assuming it isn't carring a coconut... Next question? and if it is carrying a coconut?
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 2, 2005 0:14:30 GMT -5
and if it is carrying a coconut? The average weight of a coconut is assumed to be 1.13 kg. A five-ounce bird could not hold a 1/2 pound coconut, therefore it cannot be done ;D Next question?
|
|
|
Post by Rhabuka on Mar 2, 2005 16:13:10 GMT -5
(1) Which was first, the chicken or the egg?
(2) What does the subject of this email mean?
(3) What da heck happened to your avatar?!
|
|
|
Post by Gaien on Mar 2, 2005 19:58:57 GMT -5
(1) Which was first, the chicken or the egg? (2) What does the subject of this email mean? (3) What da heck happened to your avatar?! 1) In nature, living things evolve through changes in their DNA. In an animal like a chicken, DNA from a male sperm cell and a female ovum meet and combine to form a zygote -- the first cell of a new baby chicken. This first cell divides innumerable times to form all of the cells of the complete animal. In any animal, every cell contains exactly the same DNA, and that DNA comes from the zygote. Chickens evolved from non-chickens through small changes caused by the mixing of male and female DNA or by mutations to the DNA that produced the zygote. These changes and mutations only have an effect at the point where a new zygote is created. That is, two non-chickens mated and the DNA in their new zygote contained the mutation(s) that produced the first true chicken. That one zygote cell divided to produce the first true chicken. Prior to that first true chicken zygote, there were only non-chickens. The zygote cell is the only place where DNA mutations could produce a new animal, and the zygote cell is housed in the chicken's egg. So, the egg must have come first. 2) ? If you mean what does 'Is minic a gheibhean beal oscailt diog dunta' mean, it's Gaelic for 'An open mouth often catches a closed fist.' 3) I have no idea! The website hosting my avatar must have gone away Anyone know a great place to get another one? Next question?
|
|
|
Post by Rhabuka on Mar 4, 2005 9:20:00 GMT -5
LOl, yes I meant thread/post instead of email, doh! Very cool that you know Gaelic. As for finding another avatar, you can search under Google... Images for different pictures. I'm not aware of a site with just avatars. Next questions: (1) What is good and what is evil? (2) Are we real or do we exist only in the imaginations of those around us? (3) Is there life after death?
|
|